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15 mars, 2006 at 19:29 #1030338Anonym anvandareMember
Min lokala handlare verkar ha slutat köpa hem brödet som jag köper eller så har det slutat att bakas. Osötad kornelle (kanske stavades med ”C”?) köpte jag innan. Hyffsat bra på pappret och klart ätligt.
Nån som kan rekomendera nåt annat bröd som är ok, smakar gott och säljs i de flesta butiker?
/Jonas
15 mars, 2006 at 19:29 #94018Anonym anvandareMember15 mars, 2006 at 19:36 #1030339Anonym anvandareMemberjag kör med polar extrem !
det är tufft !
15 mars, 2006 at 19:39 #1030340Anonym anvandareMemberhar kornelle i frysen, det finns kvar…
men det goaste köpebrödet just nu (förutom hönökaka) är Schulstads extra grov8)
15 mars, 2006 at 19:51 #1030341Anonym anvandareMemberKnäckebröd!
15 mars, 2006 at 19:54 #1030342Anonym anvandareMemberKing Grub wrote:Knäckebröd!:emo-thumb
Wasa sport rules!
15 mars, 2006 at 20:00 #1030343Anonym anvandareMemberäntligen bröd!!
eller axas nya som har lågt gi!
15 mars, 2006 at 20:02 #1030344Anonym anvandareMemberAXA Sportsclub :emo-thumb .. Oftast jävligt god smak på deras bröd oxå tycker jag.
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15 mars, 2006 at 20:04 #1030345Anonym anvandareMemberHur är GI på knäckebröd? t ex Wasa sport?
Bättre än vanligt bröd i allmänhet?/Jonas
15 mars, 2006 at 20:15 #1030346Anonym anvandareMemberCally wrote:Hur är GI på knäckebröd? t ex Wasa sport?
Bättre än vanligt bröd i allmänhet?/Jonas
Det är rätt högt, inte för att det spelar någon roll dock…
15 mars, 2006 at 20:20 #1030347Anonym anvandareMemberIca har en variant som smakar som kornelle, det är ett bröd i gott liv-serien. Det ser ut precis som kormelle, men med en annan påse såklart.
Jag tror Pågen har något liknande också.
Pumpernickel tycker jag annars är grymt saftigt och gott!15 mars, 2006 at 20:57 #1030348Anonym anvandareMemberCally wrote:Hur är GI på knäckebröd? t ex Wasa sport?
Bättre än vanligt bröd i allmänhet?/Jonas
Högt, men det är fullständigt irrelevant, om du inte äter enbart knäckebröd (om ens då).
15 mars, 2006 at 21:21 #1030349Anonym anvandareMemberHur kommer det sig att det är irrelevant?
15 mars, 2006 at 21:52 #1030350Anonym anvandareMemberGI har ingen påverkan på viktnedgång, insulinkänslighet, övervikt, insulinsvar, kroniska insulinnivåer, hunger eller matintag. Det är energiintaget som avgör.
Det går inte att använda GI-siffrorna som framtagits i isolerade studier och som finns i GI-tabeller i praktiken, vid en normal kosthållning.
Siffrorna är alltså oväsentliga. Ät oraffinerat, näringsrikt och naturligt = GI är irrelevant.
Diabetes Care 28:2832-2838, 2005, Dietary Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load, Carbohydrate and Fiber Intake, and Measures of Insulin Sensitivity, Secretion, and Adiposity in the Insulin Resistance Atherosclerosis Study
”We studied the association of digestible carbohydrates, fiber intake, glycemic index, and glycemic load with insulin sensitivity (SI), fasting insulin, acute insulin response (AIR), disposition index, BMI, and waist circumference.
Data on 979 adults with normal (67%) and impaired (33%) glucose tolerance… were analyzed.
No association was observed between glycemic index and SI, fasting insulin, AIR, disposition index, BMI, or waist circumference after adjustment for demographic characteristics or family history of diabetes, energy expenditure, and smoking.
Associations observed for digestible carbohydrates and glycemic load, respectively, with SI, insulin secretion, and adiposity (adjusted for demographics and main confounders) were entirely explained by energy intake.
Carbohydrates as reflected in glycemic index and glycemic load may not be related to measures of insulin sensitivity, insulin secretion, and adiposity.”
J Nutr. 2005 Oct;135(10):2387-91. Reduced glycemic index and glycemic load diets do not increase the effects of energy restriction on weight loss and insulin sensitivity in obese men and women.
”Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets.
At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (-9.3 +/- 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, -9.9 +/- 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and -8.4 +/- 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity.
Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition.
In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects.”
Diabetes Care. 2005 Sep;28(9):2123-9. Influence of glycemic index/load on glycemic response, appetite, and food intake in healthy humans.
High glycemic index (GI)/load (GL) diets reportedly enhance appetite and promote positive energy balance. Support for this hypothesis stems largely from acute feeding trials and longer-term studies lacking control over the macronutrient composition and palatability of test foods. This study evaluated the effects of consuming high- and low-GI/GL meals, matched on macronutrient composition and palatability, plasma glucose and insulin, appetite, and food intake.
Thirty-nine healthy adults consumed only low- or only high-GI foods ad libitum in the laboratory for 8 days in either high (three foods per meal)- or low (one food per meal)-variety conditions. Glucose and insulin concentrations as well as appetitive sensations were determined before and for 2 h following breakfast and lunch on days 1 and 8. Energy intake was monitored daily.
There were no significant differences in plasma glucose or insulin responses, appetitive ratings, or food intake between treatments.
These data indicate that the differential glycemic response of foods tested in isolation under fixed time are not preserved under conditions of chronic ad libitum consumption of mixed meals.”
GI-värden går inte att använda, då II på en sammansatt måltid inte är korrrelerat med GI.
”Our prediction models show that the GI of mixed meals is more strongly correlated either with fat and protein content, or with energy content, than with carbohydrate content alone.
There was no association between GI and II.”
Inte ens kalkylerat värde på en sammansatt måltids GI (med siffror från tabeller på dom individuella livsmedlen), har något att göra med måltidens faktiska mätbara GI.
”No association was found between predicted and measured GI.”
Br J Nutr. 2004 Jun;91(6):979-89.
16 mars, 2006 at 06:22 #1030351Anonym anvandareMemberFazer solrosbröd, ultra mums! :emo-thumb
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